On one of my missions, I was called to negotiate a land dispute on the planet Cyphar, between the native Afe clan and the human colonists. The colonists were claiming they were being raided and killed by the other side.
At my request, I met with both sides, despite the scorn from our human allies. When discussing moral implications where I am a third-party and a guest, I wish to hear everyone before making a decision.
I studied the Afe clan's artwork present in their meetinghouse. They are a nonhostile force; their culture and strategy depict people who will only act if they are attacked first. They also harbor intense guilt should they kill an opponent in combat.
Knowing this, I returned to the disputed territory. The human side had been provoking the Afe clan in order to force them into a shameful retreat, so as to steal their land and, more importantly, the illegal pre-drug compound that lay underneath, unknown to the Afe people.
I'm unsurprised by your egalitarian approach and your thoroughness on this case. Did you do a sampling from a wide variety of locations? Or were your people all performing their own investigations and you provided your sampling of data to a greater whole?
In that settlement, yes. You called that an example. I'm asking how many pieces of data you used to determine during the Old Republic and during the Empire the status of things.
I do not know how to calibrate that. Our methods of data collection are likely incompatible. Suffice it to say there were a number of planets and people surveyed, including those warriors from the Old Republic themselves tasked with defending it.
[oops he ran into Anakin Skywalker who gave him a biased view WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT]
I was very specific. You gave an example, I listened, and then I asked for where that example fit in the greater narrative of your determinations. I acknowledge, however, in a discussion of such specificity that your initial read is understandable.
What number of planets versus the whole of inhabited planets?
How were those planets determined? By which I mean: were you tasked with dealing with all settlements, or all planets in a certain area, or a random selection of planets etc. etc.
How much of your data was primary source and how much of it was secondary source?
'Incompatible' is a meaningless word in regards to data collection. 'Biased' or 'cherrypicked' or 'sample size' convey useful information. Your methods might be different, and I'm more than willing to hear about them, but brushing aside how you made a decision isn't useful to determining what might need adjusting in how you make decisions, is it?
Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions. What, in your estimation, would have been a decent sample size of a governing body with 1.3 million planets inside of it?
How much time do you believe I had been given? Do you believe I was sent out on a fool's errand, or do you believe I should have gone missing in action in order to more thoroughly mesh out my data?
Or perhaps none of this matters at all and you will simply jump to the next topic once I have sufficiently answered your questions?
I was asking for numbers to gain an understanding; there is no set number nor set methodology but knowing the numbers and the methodology does bear on the determinations produced. It wasn't a judgment of you, especially as I'm well aware that you were acting in your people's interest and were not in and of yourself the sole arbiter of your people's choices.
But I find the defensiveness you're exhibiting curious.
Forgiven, though I would like to know what about my choices has made you think either that I would attack you during fact finding or that I would attack anything without fact based arguments.
And for clarification: this is fact finding. No determination has been made; I am curious about your choices, but only that.
Especially given that you acknowledge your people to have specific customs and social norms. We won't get very far if you can simply brush off anything I say as "it's not like that among my people" so I'm trying to avoid that.
[silence for a time, before he decides to shift the conversation again]
Do you realize that for every answer I have given, you have asked more questions? I wonder at your satisfaction of any of my answers.
Do other inmates bear the same scrutiny as being from a people different from your own? Despite humanity's majority both in my galaxy and on this ship, I had believed most were from extraordinarily different worlds.
If I am dissatisfied with your answers, I say as such. And I believe I have done so, demonstrably, several times in such cases. If I don't say so, I am not, as I have agreed to straightforward communication with you; it wouldn't be fair to be dissatisfied and not seek to clarify or tell you as such since you could believe you had satisfied my curiousity and that sort of surprise is unpleasant.
And I don't particularly see the relevance: I am not anyone else's warden. Of course my need for understanding will be much greater in discussions with you.
Yes, actually. My identity as the first son of Elendhaven, as a Nordenman, and as a Mage were deeply important to my perspective and the nuances of the situations in my life.
And I can't speak to whether he wondered, but he did ask me questions when he needed clarifications. Many aspects of my world are similar to an earlier time period in his and both worlds have only a singular sentient species in prominence so it did make things less complicated.
I believe that knowing the context of the actions you've taken through the cultural lens of your people is necessary to understand what's in your file with any reasonable clarity.
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On one of my missions, I was called to negotiate a land dispute on the planet Cyphar, between the native Afe clan and the human colonists. The colonists were claiming they were being raided and killed by the other side.
At my request, I met with both sides, despite the scorn from our human allies. When discussing moral implications where I am a third-party and a guest, I wish to hear everyone before making a decision.
I studied the Afe clan's artwork present in their meetinghouse. They are a nonhostile force; their culture and strategy depict people who will only act if they are attacked first. They also harbor intense guilt should they kill an opponent in combat.
Knowing this, I returned to the disputed territory. The human side had been provoking the Afe clan in order to force them into a shameful retreat, so as to steal their land and, more importantly, the illegal pre-drug compound that lay underneath, unknown to the Afe people.
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I do not know how to calibrate that. Our methods of data collection are likely incompatible. Suffice it to say there were a number of planets and people surveyed, including those warriors from the Old Republic themselves tasked with defending it.
[oops he ran into Anakin Skywalker who gave him a biased view WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT]
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What number of planets versus the whole of inhabited planets?
How were those planets determined? By which I mean: were you tasked with dealing with all settlements, or all planets in a certain area, or a random selection of planets etc. etc.
How much of your data was primary source and how much of it was secondary source?
'Incompatible' is a meaningless word in regards to data collection. 'Biased' or 'cherrypicked' or 'sample size' convey useful information. Your methods might be different, and I'm more than willing to hear about them, but brushing aside how you made a decision isn't useful to determining what might need adjusting in how you make decisions, is it?
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Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions. What, in your estimation, would have been a decent sample size of a governing body with 1.3 million planets inside of it?
How much time do you believe I had been given? Do you believe I was sent out on a fool's errand, or do you believe I should have gone missing in action in order to more thoroughly mesh out my data?
Or perhaps none of this matters at all and you will simply jump to the next topic once I have sufficiently answered your questions?
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I was asking for numbers to gain an understanding; there is no set number nor set methodology but knowing the numbers and the methodology does bear on the determinations produced. It wasn't a judgment of you, especially as I'm well aware that you were acting in your people's interest and were not in and of yourself the sole arbiter of your people's choices.
But I find the defensiveness you're exhibiting curious.
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And for clarification: this is fact finding. No determination has been made; I am curious about your choices, but only that.
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Especially given that you acknowledge your people to have specific customs and social norms. We won't get very far if you can simply brush off anything I say as "it's not like that among my people" so I'm trying to avoid that.
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Do you realize that for every answer I have given, you have asked more questions? I wonder at your satisfaction of any of my answers.
Do other inmates bear the same scrutiny as being from a people different from your own? Despite humanity's majority both in my galaxy and on this ship, I had believed most were from extraordinarily different worlds.
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And I don't particularly see the relevance: I am not anyone else's warden. Of course my need for understanding will be much greater in discussions with you.
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Did he wonder at your people's customs and traits and extrapolate those cultural norms onto your behavior?
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And I can't speak to whether he wondered, but he did ask me questions when he needed clarifications. Many aspects of my world are similar to an earlier time period in his and both worlds have only a singular sentient species in prominence so it did make things less complicated.
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I haven't spotted one individual difference.
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I would die to protect my people. They are worth everything I have to give and more.
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Ah. So there are things you didn't understand about my file. I see.
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What is false here?
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lots of triggers in here: child death, plague, body horror, suicidal ideation
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