[abrupt info dump incoming. Thrawn, true to form, puts in all his homework at once:
The assignment regarding social bonding is a bit of a wash-out: Thrawn maintains that he often does attempt to bond with others but finds that he often does not know what to say or do in these situations and will inadvertently annoy whomever he is trying to bond with. As evidence, he lists a number of people he professes to have close bonds with over a long period of time, starting from when he was twenty years old and up to and including some people on the Barge. He maintains the difference between these and anyone else is a common desire to understand each other to the point of overlooking petty disputes and shallow judgements.
In regards to 'interact with others with whom you do not have anything to gain', Thrawn notes a series of artists on the ship - Jedao, Steve Rogers, Erskine Ravel, John Doe, Will Graham - who all may have other reasons for interacting with him but for the purposes of this assignment, he has reached out to in order to discuss art and little else. He notes a discussion with Tendi that went interestingly sideways when he described to her what her culture was like based off how she had arranged artwork given to her by others and disturbed her so much that the conversation was cut short.
For the emotions around loss, he merely attaches a description about an artist he researched, and entitles the picture of the article 'Thrass'.
At the tail end of this is Florian's latest assignment - how very like an accountant - in which Thrawn has categorized the risk and reward of merit adoption. He lists himself as an example, as declared. The Mitth family wins his diversity, his military strength and tactical mind, and pays for his education, housing, and food. They take on the risk of his exile bringing shame to their line, and the occasional career blunder that almost upset the delicate balance between the Ruling Families. The Kivu family has one less mouth to feed on a struggling budget, and lose the strength of one more potential fisherman or miner to take over the work of the elders. Thrawn himself receives social mobility and schooling far past what he could have dreamed.
Finally, there is a note at the bottom in careful script:]
Interest in finding out what happened in the Tendi discussion.
A desire to discuss 'Thrass'.
And for the risk and reward discussion, he crosses out 'shame' and using a red pen asks 'worth of shame?' and 'worth of 'balance' to individual family?' followed by 'Kivu is legally restricted to mining and fishing?' and 'you didn't care about your birth family?'
Also: ]
Thank you. I hope to learn much in this area. The application of such arts on other disciplines is surprisingly fruitful.
[to the first, Thrawn links back to the conversation in question, written out verbatim in the slightly clinical way of incident reporting.
An affirmative on Thrass: Thrawn writes out a brief summation. When and under what circumstances he met him (at Thrawn's rematching dinner, where Thrass was a Cousin and low-ranking Aristrocra welcoming in new Mitth); how the two would spend Thrawn's rare instances of shore leave playing Tactica in a favorite bistro; how Thrass casually and surprisingly referred to Thrawn as his brother during a skirmish in front of an opposing family (a rare thing especially for those with such a huge gap in family ranking between them, and one that Thrawn could not reciprocate), how Thrass was the first person he told of his missing sister; and how his pre-emptive strike against a pirate force led ultimately to Thrass' death, to Thrawn being stripped of his command and ship and, eventually, his exile.
'Worth of shame' gets a 'Politics' word in return: a derisive answer that means Thrawn does not understand it and cannot calculate it, but knows it's something other Chiss value. He points out Thrass' death and Thrawn's removal from his command as 'worth of balance'. The Kivu family is not restricted to mining and fishing: these are simply the most profitable industries on the planet Rentor where he was born, but relocating the family to settle elsewhere is costly and time-consuming and would require significant petitioning and re-education for most of the family. And there is the matter of whether the Kivu even wished for that: when one has done a job, and done it well for generations, there is a certain amount of pride in being the best at what you do.
To 'You didn't care about your birth family?', Thrawn writes back with a curious question of where he implied that.]
My galaxy has a number of interesting studies on such a topic. I will forward you what reading materials I have on things such as synth skin and robotic replacement limbs.
[ 'Politics is not an answer'. Thrass he avoids but 'Are mining and fishing the most profitable industries in Chiss society?' because he'd like to know. Also 'Are there others who are more profitable in mining and fishing?' before he gets to 'I didn't say you implied anything. But if you would mark 'shame' as a cost, would you not list 'emotional distress' as one as well?' ]
I would appreciate that.
Also I'd like your thoughts on the Tendi discussion.
They are the most profitable on Rentor, a minor world in the Ascendancy. Deep sea mining and ice fishing, primarily. Occasionally hunting parties in groups of twenty or more of the able-bodied will leave to fish larger game from the more dangerous open ocean.
Rentor is known for its fishing. Rentorians turn only towards deep sea mining when the fishing is not as bountiful; plenty of other worlds have more valuable minerals at less loss of life.
I would not. The Mitth Patriarch did not feel emotional distress when stripping me of rank and honor chains.
Please see attached.
The conversation with D'vana Tendi began to break down when I spoke of her family and made the connection that they would feel shame for her. It was not meant as an insult and I do not believe she took it as one: however, I failed to recognize these tumultuous feelings of emotional distress from her until she shut down entirely.
Is all of Chiss society on Rentor? Is there something that requires that your birth family specifically be the family that handles those industries there?
And I meant the emotional distress of leaving one family and having to acclimate to a new one.
Why did you make that connection out loud? What purpose did the comment have?
No. Rentor is an unimportant world in the larger Chiss Ascendancy, neither of political or cultural significance. Understand that the Chiss Ascendancy is an insular society; it is comprised of Chiss, and Chiss only. Very rarely are members of other species tolerated inside the star systems that comprise the Ascendancy. If they are to petition for asylum, they must be sponsored by a Patriel - a planetary leader of one of the Nine Ruling Families or Forty Great Families.
These are also not fixed numbers: the Ascendancy has been in place for over five thousand years, and the Ruling and Great Families have fluctuated: the Nine were once as few as one and as many as twenty or more. I am not privy to how a family moves up or down in rank, but I believe there is a great deal of arguing, petitioning, currying favors, deal-making, and exchanges of goods and promises.
[this may be text but Thrawn's distaste oozes from every word. He hates having to muddle through the complicated world of Chiss politics. Why, Florian. Why?]
Before you ask, no; the Kivu were not a part of the Nine or the Forty. My blood family was equally small and of no significant standing. They did not 'handle' any industry. My parents were fishers, as were theirs.
Many of these ruling families consist of thousands or tens of thousands of Chiss, living on family estates on many worlds. The Kivu family had four members who lived on an iceberg on Rentor. Four became three when Vurika was adopted out, three became two when I followed. I am almost certain that the line will have died out with my parents.
It is our way of life.
A misstep. I was attempting to find common ground and failed.
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The assignment regarding social bonding is a bit of a wash-out: Thrawn maintains that he often does attempt to bond with others but finds that he often does not know what to say or do in these situations and will inadvertently annoy whomever he is trying to bond with. As evidence, he lists a number of people he professes to have close bonds with over a long period of time, starting from when he was twenty years old and up to and including some people on the Barge. He maintains the difference between these and anyone else is a common desire to understand each other to the point of overlooking petty disputes and shallow judgements.
In regards to 'interact with others with whom you do not have anything to gain', Thrawn notes a series of artists on the ship - Jedao, Steve Rogers, Erskine Ravel, John Doe, Will Graham - who all may have other reasons for interacting with him but for the purposes of this assignment, he has reached out to in order to discuss art and little else. He notes a discussion with Tendi that went interestingly sideways when he described to her what her culture was like based off how she had arranged artwork given to her by others and disturbed her so much that the conversation was cut short.
For the emotions around loss, he merely attaches a description about an artist he researched, and entitles the picture of the article 'Thrass'.
At the tail end of this is Florian's latest assignment - how very like an accountant - in which Thrawn has categorized the risk and reward of merit adoption. He lists himself as an example, as declared. The Mitth family wins his diversity, his military strength and tactical mind, and pays for his education, housing, and food. They take on the risk of his exile bringing shame to their line, and the occasional career blunder that almost upset the delicate balance between the Ruling Families. The Kivu family has one less mouth to feed on a struggling budget, and lose the strength of one more potential fisherman or miner to take over the work of the elders. Thrawn himself receives social mobility and schooling far past what he could have dreamed.
Finally, there is a note at the bottom in careful script:]
Congratulations on your new position.
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Interest in finding out what happened in the Tendi discussion.
A desire to discuss 'Thrass'.
And for the risk and reward discussion, he crosses out 'shame' and using a red pen asks 'worth of shame?' and 'worth of 'balance' to individual family?' followed by 'Kivu is legally restricted to mining and fishing?' and 'you didn't care about your birth family?'
Also: ]
Thank you. I hope to learn much in this area. The application of such arts on other disciplines is surprisingly fruitful.
no subject
An affirmative on Thrass: Thrawn writes out a brief summation. When and under what circumstances he met him (at Thrawn's rematching dinner, where Thrass was a Cousin and low-ranking Aristrocra welcoming in new Mitth); how the two would spend Thrawn's rare instances of shore leave playing Tactica in a favorite bistro; how Thrass casually and surprisingly referred to Thrawn as his brother during a skirmish in front of an opposing family (a rare thing especially for those with such a huge gap in family ranking between them, and one that Thrawn could not reciprocate), how Thrass was the first person he told of his missing sister; and how his pre-emptive strike against a pirate force led ultimately to Thrass' death, to Thrawn being stripped of his command and ship and, eventually, his exile.
'Worth of shame' gets a 'Politics' word in return: a derisive answer that means Thrawn does not understand it and cannot calculate it, but knows it's something other Chiss value. He points out Thrass' death and Thrawn's removal from his command as 'worth of balance'. The Kivu family is not restricted to mining and fishing: these are simply the most profitable industries on the planet Rentor where he was born, but relocating the family to settle elsewhere is costly and time-consuming and would require significant petitioning and re-education for most of the family. And there is the matter of whether the Kivu even wished for that: when one has done a job, and done it well for generations, there is a certain amount of pride in being the best at what you do.
To 'You didn't care about your birth family?', Thrawn writes back with a curious question of where he implied that.]
My galaxy has a number of interesting studies on such a topic. I will forward you what reading materials I have on things such as synth skin and robotic replacement limbs.
no subject
I would appreciate that.
Also I'd like your thoughts on the Tendi discussion.
all text
They are the most profitable on Rentor, a minor world in the Ascendancy. Deep sea mining and ice fishing, primarily. Occasionally hunting parties in groups of twenty or more of the able-bodied will leave to fish larger game from the more dangerous open ocean.
Rentor is known for its fishing. Rentorians turn only towards deep sea mining when the fishing is not as bountiful; plenty of other worlds have more valuable minerals at less loss of life.
I would not. The Mitth Patriarch did not feel emotional distress when stripping me of rank and honor chains.
Please see attached.
The conversation with D'vana Tendi began to break down when I spoke of her family and made the connection that they would feel shame for her. It was not meant as an insult and I do not believe she took it as one: however, I failed to recognize these tumultuous feelings of emotional distress from her until she shut down entirely.
Re: all text
And I meant the emotional distress of leaving one family and having to acclimate to a new one.
Why did you make that connection out loud? What purpose did the comment have?
Re: all text
These are also not fixed numbers: the Ascendancy has been in place for over five thousand years, and the Ruling and Great Families have fluctuated: the Nine were once as few as one and as many as twenty or more. I am not privy to how a family moves up or down in rank, but I believe there is a great deal of arguing, petitioning, currying favors, deal-making, and exchanges of goods and promises.
[this may be text but Thrawn's distaste oozes from every word. He hates having to muddle through the complicated world of Chiss politics. Why, Florian. Why?]
Before you ask, no; the Kivu were not a part of the Nine or the Forty. My blood family was equally small and of no significant standing. They did not 'handle' any industry. My parents were fishers, as were theirs.
Many of these ruling families consist of thousands or tens of thousands of Chiss, living on family estates on many worlds. The Kivu family had four members who lived on an iceberg on Rentor. Four became three when Vurika was adopted out, three became two when I followed. I am almost certain that the line will have died out with my parents.
It is our way of life.
A misstep. I was attempting to find common ground and failed.